Illustration of Slate’s Amicus podcast hosts Dahlia Lithwick and Rachel Laser discussing Christian nationalism and church-state separation.
Illustration of Slate’s Amicus podcast hosts Dahlia Lithwick and Rachel Laser discussing Christian nationalism and church-state separation.
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Slate’s Amicus examines Christian nationalism and church-state separation in a new episode with Americans United’s Rachel Laser

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A new episode of Slate’s “Amicus” podcast features host Dahlia Lithwick in conversation with Rachel Laser, president and CEO of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, about the modern push for Christian nationalism and the legal and political fights over church-state separation.

In a new episode of Slate’s Amicus podcast, host Dahlia Lithwick speaks with Rachel Laser, president and CEO of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, about Christian nationalism and debates over the separation of church and state.

The Slate episode described church-state separation as a principle under pressure and argued that recent political and legal developments have helped accelerate a Christian-nationalist project in public life, including within the federal government.

Lithwick, a longtime legal journalist who writes about U.S. courts and law for Slate, used the episode to frame the discussion around the Supreme Court’s role in reshaping how the Constitution’s religion clauses are applied, while Laser discussed Americans United’s view of the stakes for religious freedom, pluralism and civil rights.

The episode is available through major podcast platforms, including Apple Podcasts and Spotify, and Slate promotes additional ad-free listening and bonus content for Slate Plus subscribers.

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Initial reactions on X to Slate's Amicus podcast episode with Rachel Laser focus on concerns about SCOTUS decisions enabling Christian nationalism in the U.S. military, particularly at the Pentagon. Critics decry it as dangerous and unconstitutional, while defenders argue it reflects natural Christian influence on policy rather than nationalism.

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Podcast hosts Aaron Regunberg, Jonathan Smucker, and Matt DaSilva recording 'Fighting Fascism' for The Nation, surrounded by books and resistance imagery.
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The Nation launches ‘Fighting Fascism’ podcast focused on organizing lessons and resistance history

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The Nation announced a new weekly podcast, “Fighting Fascism,” hosted by organizers Aaron Regunberg and Jonathan Smucker alongside cohost Matt DaSilva. The show aims to examine how fascist movements have gained power and how resistance movements have countered them, drawing lessons for contemporary politics.

A February 28, 2026 episode of Slate’s legal podcast Amicus features former U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli Jr. in conversation with host Dahlia Lithwick about the Supreme Court’s tariff dispute and broader questions about executive power, including what the episode describes as the Justice Department’s shifting relationship with facts.

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A May 6 episode of The Nation’s American Prestige podcast features hosts Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison in conversation with University of Vermont political science professor Alex Zakaras about the history and future of radical liberalism.

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